In simple terms the accusations against immigrants, whether legal or illegal, are simply bigoted and racists and untrue!
It is common sense that people do not come to America for welfare alone, or to commit crimes, or to STEAL a job.
The economic net cost vs benefit for immigrants, legal and illegal, over the long term, is ALWAYS A POSITIVE NUMBER.
Illegal immigrants are NOT TERRORISTS EITHER.
Stop buying that old, nonsensical bull shit about illegal immigrants hurting America. It is a lie! They are a modest drain on Government, but their children contribute more. Legal immigrants make a net positive contribution and are not a drain at all.
Give illegals a path to legal status. It is simple and reasonable.
Tweety is willing to ignore the humanity of nearly 200,000 El Salvadorans and the Dream Act kids for what? The f**king ~$18Bwall that will NOT pay for itself notwithstanding false numbers of extremists, including
The FACTs about illegal immigrant contributions to our economy, crime rate, and the jobs the work in are all GOOD! Illegals do not take more in entitlements than they give back through taxes and bill payments, they do not commit higher crime than any other identifiable ethnic group, and they qualified for the jobs they have when others did nt. They remain in their jobs because they do them well. If they take a job at a lower wage, that is your gault, a ding on YOU, the one who would not do the work for that wage.
"Fact Check: No Evidence Undocumented Immigrants Commit More Crimes"
by Jane C. Timm 28 Jan 2017
"There’s one catch: There's no evidence that undocumented immigrants commit more crime."
"The number of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. tripled between the 1990s and 2013, while violent crime declined 48% and property crime fell 41% over that period. "
"Why undocumented immigrants pay taxes"
by Octavio Blanco @CNNMoney April 19, 2017: 6:06 AM ET
http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/19/news/economy/undocumented-immigrant-taxes/index.html
"Out of the nearly 11.1 million undocumented immigrants estimated to be living in the U.S., Pew Research projected that there were about 8 million in the workforce in 2014.
Nearly half, or 3.4 million, of those workers paid Social Security taxes, according to 2014 estimates from the Social Security administration. And while the agency doesn't have a figure for how much this group paid in taxes that year, it said that unauthorized immigrant workers and their employers contributed $13 billion in payroll taxes in 2010, its most current estimate."
"Immigrants Aren’t Taking Americans’ Jobs, New Study Finds"
By JULIA PRESTON SEPT. 21, 2016
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/us/immigrants-arent-taking-americans-jobs-new-study-finds.html
"The report assembles research from 14 leading economists, demographers and other scholars, including some, like Marta Tienda of Princeton, who write favorably about the impacts of immigration and others who are skeptical of its benefits, like George J. Borjas, a Harvard economist. Here’s what the report says:
• “We found little to no negative effects on overall wages and employment of native-born workers in the longer term,” said Francine D. Blau, an economics professor at Cornell University who led the group that produced the 550-page report."
• Some immigrants who arrived in earlier generations, but were still in the same low-wage labor markets as foreigners just coming to the country, earned less and had more trouble finding jobs because of the competition with newer arrivals.
• Teenagers who did not finish high school also saw their hours of work reduced by immigrants, although not their ability to find jobs. Professor Blau said economists had found many reasons that young people who drop out of high school struggle to find work. “There is no indication immigration is the major factor,” she said.
• High-skilled immigrants, especially in technology and science, who have come in larger numbers in recent years, had a significant “positive impact” on Americans with skills, and also on working-class Americans. They spurred innovation, helping to create jobs."
"Immigrants Are a Fiscal Boon, Not a Burden" [Legal; immigrants in general]
After a few years in America, the foreign-born pay more into the safety net than they take out.
byNoah Smith September 22, 2017
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-09-22/immigrants-are-a-fiscal-boon-not-a-burden
"Immigration restrictionists [Say White House: Trump or Steven Miller] give a number of reasons why they want fewer people settling in the U.S. Most of these reasons don’t hold up under scrutiny."
More.
"The NAS finds that low-skilled immigrants -- that is, immigrants with no high school degree -- tend to cause a modest net fiscal drain at the state and local level. This isn’t because immigrants go on welfare, but because they tend to have a lot of kids, which the government then pays to educate. However, the children of immigrants -- the second generation -- tend to do very well economically, with high employment rates and good wages. This makes them net fiscal contributors."
". . . immigrants are paying for the retirements, the health care and the welfare benefits of the native-born. Restricting immigration, as Miller and others want to do, would either increase the tax burden on native-born Americans, or cause benefits to be cut -- probably for the elderly. That hardly sounds like a good way to put America first."
"The truth about America's illegal immigrants"
The Week Staff
http://theweek.com/articles/650402/truth-about-americas-illegal-immigrants
"How many illegal immigrants work?
An estimated 8.1 million are either working or looking for work. Some are paid in cash, but many illegal immigrants use fake Social Security numbers to secure jobs, and are thus U.S. taxpayers. Half of America's illegal immigrants are thought to pay income taxes in some form: in 2010, they contributed an estimated $10.6 billion in state and local taxes, and $13 billion in Social Security. [Do conservative numbers allow for these taxes?] Contrary to common perception, illegal immigrants don't qualify for public benefits like welfare, food stamps, and Medicaid, [Do conservative lies say otherwise?] as these programs require proof of legal immigration status. However, the children of undocumented immigrants do receive certain benefits, in the form of public schooling and emergency medical care; if they're born in the U.S., they qualify for welfare benefits too. The Heritage Foundation has calculated that the average illegal immigrant household costs taxpayers $14,387 a year, though many economists have questioned the assumptions used to reach that figure.
What proportion are criminals?
Based on Department of Homeland Security statistics, it's been estimated that about 820,000 illegal immigrants qualify as "removable criminal aliens," or about 7.5 percent of all undocumented immigrants. Under President Obama, criminals have been the focus of the government's deportation strategy. The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE) deported 235,413 illegal immigrants in the last fiscal year. About 70 percent were removed after being caught within 100 miles of the border, on the assumption they had recently crossed over; of the "interior removals" — those presumably living here for years — 91 percent had been convicted of crimes. "If you are a run-of-the-mill immigrant here illegally," says John Sandweg, former acting director of ICE, "your odds of getting deported are close to zero.""
Maybe I am wrong. Look for "cons" material and I find lies, so I turn to common sense. But take a loo at how lies work first, and I notice they focus on justifying the Wall. That is suspect to start. If building a bigger, less porous wall were a solution, it would have been seen and known sooner. The Wall is a solution looking for a problem to justify it.
"The Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration"
FacebookTwitterGoogle+EmailPrintBy Steven A. Camarota on February 15, 2017
https://cis.org/Report/Cost-Border-Wall-vs-Cost-Illegal-Immigration
"Based on the NAS data, illegal border-crossers create an average fiscal burden of approximately $74,722 during their lifetimes, excluding any costs for their U.S.-born children [But if there are children, there must be jobs to support the children. Illegal immigranst still need food for their kids. JOBS!. For the most part even illegal immigrants work. Having jobs mean taxes paid, so their is money coming IN as well as OUT.] . If a border wall stopped between 160,000 and 200,000 illegal crossers — 9 to 12 percent of those expected to successfully cross in the next decade — the fiscal savings would equal the $12 to $15 billion cost of the wall.1[footnote] [No, these numbers do NOT add up.]
Among the findings:
There is agreement among researchers that illegal immigrants overwhelmingly have modest levels of education — most have not completed high school or have only a high school education.
There is also agreement that immigrants who come to America with modest levels of education create significantly more in costs for government than they pay in taxes.
A recent NAS study estimated the lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) of immigrants by education. Averaging the cost estimates from that study and combining them with the education levels of illegal border-crossers shows a net fiscal drain of $74,722 per illegal crosser.2 [footnote]
The above figures are only for the original illegal immigrants and do not include any costs for their U.S.-born descendants. If we use the NAS projections that include the descendants, the fiscal drain for border-crossers grows to $94,391 each.
If a border wall prevented 160,000 to 200,000 illegal crossings (excluding descendants) in the next 10 years it would be enough to pay for the estimated $12 to $15 billion costs of the wall.
Newly released research by the Institute for Defense Analyses (IDA) done for the Department of Homeland Security indicates that 170,000 illegal immigrants crossed the border successfully without going through a port of entry in 2015.3 While a significant decline in crossings from a decade ago, it still means that there may be 1.7 million successful crossings in the next decade. If a wall stopped just 9 to 12 percent of these crossings it would pay for itself.
If a wall stopped half of those expected to successfully enter illegally without going through a port of entry at the southern border over the next 10 years, it would save taxpayers nearly $64 billion — several times the wall's cost."
If illegal immigrants work, they are not on the dole, not on welfare.
Immigrants do not "take" jobs, they apply just like everyone else.
Illegal immigrants commit crime at no greater rate as regular citizens, and for the same reasons as anyone else. Illegals avoid crime because committing a crime gets them arrested and immediately deported.
"Is the Center for Immigration Studies a hate group, as the Southern Poverty Law Center says?"
By Amy Sherman on Wednesday, March 22nd, 2017
"
CIS doesn’t provide details on its funders, although one of its main sources is the Colcom Foundation, a group that warns about overpopulation. IRS tax records for 2015 show that Colcom gave about $1.7 million to CIS. The foundation’s vice president of philanthropy is the biographer of John Tanton, who helped found CIS.
The two groups have sparred for years, particularly after SPLC included another group, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, on its hate-group list in 2007. SPLC included CIS on this list for the first time in February 2017."
"Inside The Center For Immigration Studies, The Immigration False-Fact Think Tank"
Caitlin Dickson 15 May 2014
They have an agenda of hate against immigrants however you slice it.
"Since 1995, CIS has been led by Mark Krikorian, the child of Armenian immigrants who didn’t learn English until kindergarten; he was paradoxically an early opponent of the movement toward bilingual education in the United States and has made a career crusading against mass immigration.
A longtime columnist at the conservative National Review (and the author of that “Is Hillary Responsible for Releasing Criminal Aliens” post mentioned above), Krikorian is an advocate of “enforcement by attrition,” a concept better known, thanks to Mitt Romney, as “self-deportation.” As a testament to Krikorian’s, and CIS’s influence in D.C., a June 2013 Washington Post profile entitled, “The Provocateur Standing in the Way of Immigration Reform,” reframed the question of whether immigration reform can pass as, “Can Mark Krikorian be stopped?”"
More.
"Heidi Beirich, director of SPLC’s Intelligence Project, summarized why CIS landed on the list in the America’s Voice blog:
"CIS has a long history of bigotry, starting with its founder, white nationalist John Tanton, but in 2016, the group hit a new low. CIS commissioned Jason Richwine, a man who’s Ph.D. dissertation endorses the idea of IQ differences between the races, to write multiple reports and blog pieces for the organization. The group also continued to circulate racist and anti-Semitic authors to its supporters, and finally, staffer John Miano attended the white nationalist group VDARE’s Christmas party in December.""
Is hate something that can be identified and listed? If members of CIS promote racism, saying immigrants are dumber than whites, for example, thus promoting white nationalism, I would say they are people of hate, even if the disguise their opinion as sciened based.
"John Tanton: Tanton is a Michigan eye doctor who has been described as the "father of the modern anti-immigration movement." He helped found the immigration restriction group Federation for American Immigration Reform in 1979 and helped form CIS in 1985 and later NumbersUSA.
In a 2002 investigation, the SPLC cited memos he wrote to colleagues that included derogatory references to Latinos. Tanton speculated on the impact of immigration to California. "Will Latin American migrants bring with them the tradition of the mordida (bribe), the lack of involvement in public affairs, etc.?" he wrote.
He wrote in a letter that "for European-American society and culture to persist requires a European-American majority, and a clear one at that.''
Several newspaper articles have dissected statements from Tanton and his ties to eugenics and English-language campaigns.
Krikorian has downplayed Tanton’s role in CIS and points to a statement by Tanton in response to what SPLC wrote about him in 2002: "I also helped raise a grant in 1985 for the Center for Immigration Studies, but I have played no role in the center's growth or development."
The SPLC sent PolitiFact letters showing that Tanton corresponded with Krikorian in the 1990s. But we found no recent connections between Tanton and CIS.
Jason Richwine: In 2013, Richwine resigned his job at the conservative Heritage Foundation amid controversy about his Harvard dissertation "IQ and Immigration Policy," which stated that the "average IQ of immigrants in the United States is substantially lower than that of the white native population, and the difference is likely to persist over several generations."
Richwine defended his work as grounded in science.
In 2016, Richwine began writing reports and blogs for CIS about immigration and wages, immigrants and welfare and the cultural values of certain immigrant groups, among other topics."
More.
"The Southern Poverty Law Centers appears to be the key entity in the United States that creates a list of hate groups. The FBI does not classify groups as hate groups, although it keeps track of hate crime statistics.
We found differing opinions among experts about whether the Southern Poverty Law Center’s list is legitimate."
