What is it that makes some folks, usually conservatives I suppose, but others too, want to look into the past to second guess what Obama chose to do during his administration?
Isn't Tweety Twump the President now?
What is this blame thing, a paranoia that says Obama did America wrong?
I do not see what Fox wants to accomplish, often, as their talking heads and guests say Obama was not perfect or maybe he was even bad, in order to blame him for anything.
I don't see how America or the Fox audience benefits from looking back n Obama's faults.
A Medal of Honor recipient calls Rice "liar in chief" on Fox. OK, you can say what you want my friend. As a 22 year Air Force veteran I never earned the Medal of Honor. I am sure you were valiant in your duty. What is your purpose, however? What did you accomplish except to vent your hatred?
Susan Rice did what she was supposed to do, state what the US Government and Syria had agreed to as a matter of foreign policy, and to avoid dropping bombs, not as a matter to help Fox tell a story. Fox bring in a "talking head" paid to criticize Rice. Silly and obvious hit job on a person who o longer works in government. Waste of time I'd say.
Seeking a simplistic solution in foreign policy is an adolescents tact, not an adult approach. Fox needs to grow up. Act adult if possible. Of course any network with Sean Hannity, the "Breitbart/National Inquirer mentality of talk TV, is going to have difficulty growing up.
"Susan Rice’s claim that Obama got Syria to ‘verifiably give up its chemical weapons stockpile’"
By Glenn Kessler Fact Checker Analysis Analysis Interpretation of the news based on evidence, including data, as well as anticipating how events might unfold based on past events
April 10, 2017
"“We were able to find a solution that didn’t necessitate the use of force that actually removed the chemical weapons that were known from Syria, in a way that the use of force would never have accomplished. Our aim in contemplating the use of force following the use of chemical weapons in August of 2013 was not to intervene in the civil war, not to become involved in the combat between Assad and the opposition, but to deal with the threat of chemical weapons by virtue of the diplomacy that we did with Russia and with the Security Council. We were able to get the Syrian government to voluntarily and verifiably give up its chemical weapons stockpile.”
— Susan E. Rice, then-national security adviser, in an interview with NPR’s “Morning Edition,” Jan. 16"
More . . .
"The Facts
In her NPR interview, Rice acknowledged that the Syrian civil war was the administration’s biggest disappointment but she pointed to the removal of chemical weapons from Syria as an achievement. President Barack Obama scrubbed a planned attack on Syrian facilities — which planners believed would have left two-thirds of Syria’s chemical weapons intact — in exchange for a diplomatic solution that was to result in the removal of all chemical weapons."
Not "all" gas was removed. It is complicated by defining the gas used, and other elements. These aren't excuses Fox, they are how the world of foreign affairs operate.
"The Pinocchio Test
The removal of vast quantities of chemical weapons from Syria’s soil was indeed an achievement. When Obama contemplated attacking Syria, a major problem with his plan was that most of the chemical weapons would not have been destroyed.
But the Obama administration had a tendency to oversell what was accomplished, perhaps because Obama received so much criticism for not following through on an attack if Syria crossed what Obama had called “a red line.” We have a reasonable-person test here at The Fact Checker, and it’s doubtful many NPR listeners realized that “known” was code for the fact that Rice only was referring to chemical weapons stocks declared by Syria — or that chlorine weapons were not covered by the agreement.
The reality is that there were continued chemical-weapons attacks by Syria — and that U.S. and international officials had good evidence that Syria had not been completely forthcoming in its declaration and possibly retained sarin and VX nerve agent. Yet Rice said: “We were able to get the Syrian government to voluntarily and verifiably give up its chemical weapons stockpile.” She did not explain that Syria’s declaration was believed to be incomplete and thus was not fully verified — and that the Syrian government still attacked citizens with chemical weapons not covered by the 2013 agreement. That tipped her wordsmithing toward a Four.
Four Pinocchios"
So Rice would be said to have lied. But you know what? So what? Has anything changed? Fox gets a "skin" on the Obama administration for what purpose? What was accomplished by going after Susan Rice in 2017?
Zero. Nada. Nothing was accomplished by documenting a lie or falsehood, or as Tweety might call it, creative truth, "alternative facts."
